The difference between Shambles and Joe...

Shambles comes out and says what he thinks. OK. Maybe a bit more than some of us would like. BUT, we all know him and know his opinions and know what he means.

Now Joe, well this is difficult 'cos we DON'T know what Joe is doing. SOMETIMES he tell us what he thinks. Other times he sneaks in under cover of his editing priviliges and deletes messages or moves them without telling us. Then when Shambles complains that one of his messages has been deleted, then all the usual suspects jump in with a knee jerk reaction to trash Shambles.

Personally, I prefer someone who is open and above board, even though he may go on a bit at times, to someone who is abusing their editing priviliges by secretly deleting somone else's messages.