Shambles comes out and says what he thinks. [...] BUT, we all know him and know his opinions and know what he means.

I don't know what he means half the time.

Now Joe, well this is difficult 'cos we DON'T know what Joe is doing.

When Joe particpates as a poster, I know him to the same extent I know shambles, his opinions and know what he means.

It's nonsensical to include the moderation duty which Joe performs (and Max says can be done anonymously) and shambles can't in your "character analysis".