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Thread #92618   Message #1788926
Posted By: robomatic
21-Jul-06 - 03:02 AM
Thread Name: BS: Gaza Strip 28/9 June 2006
Subject: RE: BS: Gaza Strip 28/9 June 2006
CarolC:
Without going into the validity of the web article you pasted a few messages back, even by its timing the "Palestinians" were digging their way across the border at the same time as the supposed Israeli apprehension of wanted terrorists. So it could hardly be said to be a 'response' to the alleged Israeli action.

And how you and your article gloss over the killing of two of the soldiers before the third wounded one was captured!

This is, of course, small beer, since you must certainly go back to 'the last' border outrage, and someone will find one before that, ad infinitum, but it 'proves' nothing and does not legitimize the actions of either Hamas or Hizbollah.

Just as others on this thread (not you) can do nothing but shriek against anything Israeli as the epitome of evil, but do not accept Israel in the first place, while this thread appears to go nowhere, it actually highlights the true difficulty of making peace when the opponent can't be recognized.

A co-worker a few years ago was in a traffic accident in one of the Arab countries. He found out he was pretty much automatically at fault, because by the logic of the court, if he, a foreigner, hadn't been there in the first place, there would have been no accident!

This seems to be both Guest,Walt, and Guest,Dan 's problem to begin with. Never mind that none of the Arab countries are remotely democratic, never mind that Nasser was a violater of human rights and a user of poison gas, just as Saddam Hussein, against fellow Muslims, never mind that Syria under the current leader's father once executed an entire town for being a hotbed of fundamentalist Islamic rebellion. That was all in the family. Israel can never be family. Jews cannot live in Muslim countries as equals, nor Christians. These double standards make it okay for me to argue with you, but an act of pure hypocrisy for you to argue with me (so to speak). So Guest,Walt, and/or Guest,Dan can spought a range of accusations but can't be troubled to answer a simple question, because to engage with logic is beneath him/her/it, and a perceived act of weakness.

Well, I perceive the inability to engage as an act of weakness. To blindly lash out at anyone who disagrees with one as a racist is an act of weakness, too, particularly when not adequately backed up with fact and neglecting that main contenders in these dramas are of the same race. I believe, however, that there is plenty of bigotry to go around.