Joe - I just qoute 'em. I DO know that one of the problems McGrath had was that when someone tried his links, RealAudio would try to find the file on their local drive, even though his links read for the network drive. Did a search in the Realaudio database for that problem and those were the two answers. the references evidently are built into the files themselves, not just the HTML code. Have seen several other references to this, but can't locate the blasted things.