We have a wonderful example here of moderates vs Guests here, almost a textbook case.

Guests come in and say something one sided, and various members try to be reasonable, and acknowledge that the point Guest XYZ makes may be true in a few cases, but is being very harsh. It is seen over and over again

In this case, there is a full spectrum of people, from the few who are the feckless layabouts though to those who settle down in a loving, stable relationship for life and manage to bring up healthy, normal, educated children and work their way up to a reasonable job themselves.


people are too variable to lump together, as has been done too much here, especially if you do so at an extreme.