Also if that is the crap we DO get to see, all be in briefly, maybe it is just as well we don't have to read the crap that the Admin removes before we do huh!

That, of course is what you are supposed to think and expected to be grateful for.........
But anyone who has been online for any period will have just about seen it all and already had much of it arrive unannounced in their in box and ignored it. Good or bad - it is the online world and most of it is filtered automatically anyway.

But how do we know the level and extent of all this we are supposed to be protected from on our forum? Because we are now told this by the 'we' who wish to carry on protecting us from it and who can't even trust us enough to be informed of their identity.

The implication is that all the secrecy and division involved in having this unknown number and anonymous 'we' - is necessary because of the vast quantity and level of all this 'crap'......Is it?

If our forum could see when and where all the occasions when 'crap' is deleted in our name and in order to protect us - we would all be able to judge if this secrecy and division was proportionate and worth the sacrifices that are being made to the public's freedom of expression on our forum.   

Without this information - any judgement posted here about the level of censorship being OK and worth the sacrifice - is worthless. There is always a balance to be struck and few of us have any idea if the current balance is about right - or totally over the top.

If all censorship action taken from now on - were to be indicated and the reason why were briefly explained (even with a number code as suggested) - our forum would then be in a position to judge if the response being made was proportionate and worth the sacrifices being made to enable posters to be protected from making the decision ourselves what to read, respond to or ignore.

Rather like 'the war on terrorism' - censorship on our forum seems to have little effect on the guilty but places more and more restrictions on those just trying to go about their business. Those who impose restrictions on us in the name of 'the war on terrorism' also ask and expect us to trust them.

And of course we all do - don't we?