grown up, but grown up different. different country, different mythologies, different gods to propitiate. their lives have their own parabola to describe.

put it this way. you never grew up in a place where joining the IRA seemed like a good idea.

I think it was Ionesco, the playwright - who said, we grow up with certainties, and when we learn a foreign language, you learn all these statements that you have taken for granted all your life -"the floor is up, the ceiling is down". and sometimes you think, is that really so.......?

for ard and divis, the floor and ceiling are probably someplace else. no dishonesty intended.    If I told the story of the miners strike, I imagine it would have some different truths to tell than a Mrs Thatcher fan.