looks to me like the more of us leave, the worse the infighting gets. maybe the place will just implode. the bs is a small minority of mudcatters but the majority of that minority just likes to fight and side with the power elite. same people saying the same stuff over and over. the editors are the worst. bert give up. it isn't going to change. its not shambles...its the people that keep fighting him. change the structure of mudcat or it will stay the same. all the talk in the world isn't going to change it. these people just have nothing better to do.