Well Rick, I still consider myelf to be pretty new to internet communications as I didn't start until May last year and it was a couple of months later that I first visited Mudcat but I already feel like an old hand at this particular debate.

I don't know how many times I have seen this topic between the various forums that I read and I think that the only certainty is that there will never agreement although I have seen some people getting very heated over it...

I will leave this one to others but while you are at, "traditional" also need defining...

Jon