Fair enough Ron, fair enough.

It seems the Lagers you are talking about are, like Real Ale, 'hand-crafted' by artisans, rather than mass produced on a production line by mechanical &/or flesh-&-blood cogs in a machine.

If you came over to the UK, you would see that we are saying pretty much the same thing about OUR real ale as you are saying about YOUR lager.

We arent any of us here slagging off lager JUST BECAUSE its lager, but because its CRAP lager.