If my earlier threads had been read carefully, it would have been noticed That isaid that the purpose of the exams should have nothing to do with getting a job. After all iam an unqualified professional folk singer. my only qualifications are that i have been singing playing ,and hopefully giving people pleasure for over thirty years.But exams can be useful for retired or elderly people too, helping to keep the brain active etc, and they may well want to do exams in traditional music, people like lucy who recently passed her classical violin exam, [see that thread]. no one should be made to do exams , adults are capable of making their own choices, but shouldnt the choice be there, thats what comhaltas should be praised for, and perhaps less of you would be against the idea if efdss introduced it for adults only, and it is another way of bringing in revenue.thankyou betsy I appreciate eccentrics and loonies too.