I judge that may be the subject for another thread and not for this one...However, as I am limited to this one thread perhaps you could start a new thread with your question clearly indicated in the title - and I may just answer it for you there.

I did indeed say that - and the question was once clearly indicated in this thread's original title.

However, that title has been changed and this thread renamed but this does not change this thread's object (or its motivation).

Graham do you really consider your 'background' summary of events in the first post to be a complete or a fair one? In any trail - there is usually an attempt to show both sides of any dispute and the accused usually has someone to speak for them. It is perfectly clear that dispite the evidence - you do not consider me to simply be a victim of personally motivated and selective censorship action.

Would anyone consider it possible for me to have a fair 'shake' in this thread and under these circumstances? Whatever answer I provide to the question will not prevent the 'usual suspects' calling for my blood or at least my expulsion - will it?

So what is your purpose in staying here and doing it?

All I am trying to DO is freely read and contribute to the public discussion forum on the basis that I have been doing for many years.

Graham - you tend to concentrate on the strange idea that I really expect turkeys to be in favour of voting for an early Christmas.

All I expect is to be able to hold discussions with my fellow posters on any subject - including the issue of censorship. To enable posters to be informed of the true nature and level of this and to be able to openly debate this.

Posters who wish to take part in this on-going debate are welcome to and those who do not do not have to. Those who do not like the fact that Max still favours such open public debate on our forum - are welcome to go elsewhere - where they can place as many restrictions as they wish - rather than finding ways of trying to prevent this debate and post only to judge the worth of the participants.

Like most of us - I have many views and suggestions. I do not expect Max or anyone else to agree with all of these. Max is of course welcome to make his views and suggestions on his own website. But would you think that he would expect me or any other poster to have agree with all of these either?

Max can of course stop me from contributing at any point. He has not chosen to do so and I hope that he will not. Perhaps the 'usual suspects' will finally respect Max's wishes in this. It would be sad if Max felt forced to do this - as the only grounds would be the reaction and intolerance of a very few of my fellow posters.

There I have answered the question - and I am quite sure the same posters will still be making exactly the same judgements. Hopefully some may not.......