There can be no moral right for Israel to say to the innocent or immobile non-combatant "Flee or be killed".

Defenders of Israel seem to be limited to Bearded Bruce, Robomatic, the aptly named Peace, C. Ham, and John on the Sunset Coast, most of whom seem to think that it is acceptable to kill the hostage in order to save him.

Enough said.

Come on, now you have checked (if you have checked), admit that I was right to say that there were sufficient reasons not to accept Gross's assertions without checking.

Also please admit that history teaches that the BBC has a long history of truthful factual reportage.

Guest, please look up the primary meaning of "refute". All I do her is two things. First, I continue to point out that no matter how much Israel maybe entitled (if it is) to attack Hezbollah, that does not entitle it to slaughter the innocent and lay waste to the Lebanon generally. Second, I point out that there may be reasons to doubt the true independence of the sources of some pro-Israel writings. Others are happy to do the job of attacking pro-Lebanese writings.

Pro or anti Hezbollah writings are not relevant to the primary issue I raised here, of Israel killing non-Hezbollah Lebanese and destroying the Lebanese infrastructure.