Shambles, Joe's voice is not alone. There are many of us who would -and sometimes did - have spoken more harshly to you much earlier than Joe Offer did. You persist in saying, and possibly believing, that Joe's actions are the problem. Nicht so.

Ebbie all the harsh - mean-spirited words and abusive personal attacks I can ignore from anyone. Although the purpose of our 'moderators is supposed to be to protect posters from such things.

These I can even ignore when the example is set by the Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team, his known 'moderators' and the anonymous ones -that such abusive personal attacks are now acceptable on our forum. Although I am not sure - in the light of this - how anyone could accept this. Or how anyone could expect me to accept that any of their actions against my posts could ever possibly be considered as impartial.

The imposed action and selective censorship action of Chief of the Mudcat Editing I cannot ignore.

The imposed change to this thread's title and the inclusion of the 'complaints about editing' is also significant and the reason for the choice of these words - is difficult to ignore.

These are my views - they are not complaints. And if the making of complaints were a no-no on our forum - most of the posts by the 'usual suspects' are now complaints. Or they are post containing only judgements about the worth of their fellow posters and these escape comment.