There would be something ironic about a general viewing lamenting about a battlefied - as if they had played no role at all in creating it... I see nothing inevitable at all about our forum changing to becoming open to members only...

Can you agree that you've repeatedly posted on this subject, copy-pasting and mass-quoting, on threads which had no relevance to it, for two years? I could provide evidence if you wanted.

Given that this is the case, your statement above is quite simply the biggest piece of hypocrisy that I've seen for a long time. I hope you're ashamed. Either that or considering a career in politics. Kim Howells and John Prescott are mere amateurs in comparison.

But would you think that he would expect me or any other poster to have to agree with all of these either?

Agree 100%: no. But either shut up and live with it, or depart for another site with terms you can accept: yes, and I can't see how anyone could think anything else was acceptable behaviour.

When you're on his site, it's his rules. His rules explicitly include delegating day-to-day responsibility to Joe and Jeff, so it's their rules too, unless you can get Max to override Joe. This you have singularly failed to do - in fact, Max has said that he's lost patience with you, that your posts are a "distraction" and that "you too, should bid farewell".

It looks like I'll have to ask again. Why are you still here? And will you remain here, complaining incessantly, until someone does finally ban you?

Graham.