My apologies to Brendy, the culprit was indeed "Crying Child". And I do indeed try to read in retrospect. On this occasion my memory was faulty O.K.? My point was, inOBU, and continues to be, despite that I *did* misdirect a quotation, that if you refer to attestable historical facts, get them right ! Also , you seem to have forgotten the fact that I *have* spoken to IRA men and their fellow-travellers at first hand - and not after they had *retired* from active service to pursue a rather more lucrative literary career. So don't accuse me of being unaware of their thought processes. I, and most thinking people in Northern Ireland, could write the words ourselves. The reference to "Bloody Sunday" was inspired by the misapprehension on your part that I was as unaware of what is/was happening in Ireland as you and other contributors to this thread so patently are.

And Brendy, don't patronise me, if there is a *proper name* for the city you refer to it should be "Doire Cholm Cille", but we all live in the real world and if I refer to it as Londonderry, why should you object when you yourself use a "wrong" appellation ? We both know to what we refer and if communication is the point of Language, then where is the obstacle ? After all, local people call Carrickfergus "Carrick", but I don't hear of ignoramuses leaping up and down apoplectically demanding that it be called by its "right" name. Trevor