I'm surprised we haven't explored this song more thoroughly. The previous thread just had Dan Keding's message (above) and a discussion of how to search the Digital Tradition. It's an interesting song, but I have to say that I've had trouble getting the tune down. There's something about it that give me fits. Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry on this song:Rigs of the Times, The
DESCRIPTION: Chorus: "Honesty's all out of fashion; These are the rigs of the times...." Detailing all the sharp business practices of the day, e.g. the butcher who charges two shillings a pound "and thinks it no sin" -- while placing his thumb on the scale!
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1905 (Belden)
KEYWORDS: hardtimes poverty lie money landlord
FOUND IN: Britain(England(Lond,South)) US(MA,MW,NW,Ro,SE,So) Canada(Newf) Australia
REFERENCES (22 citations):
Kennedy 237, "The Rigs of the Time" (1 text, 1 tune)
Palmer-ECS, #25, "The Rigs of the Time" (1 text, 1 tune)
Palmer-Painful, #13, "The rigs of the times" (1 text, 1 tune)
Belden, pp. 433-434, "Song of the Times" (1 text)
BrownIII 332, "Hard Times" (2 texts plus a fragment and mention of 1 more)
BrownSchinhanV 332, "Hard TImes" (2 tunes plus text excerpts)
Hudson 89, pp. 215-216, "Hard Times" (1 text)
Gardner/Chickering ,184 ""Hard Times (1 text, 1 tune)
Welsch, pp. 51-53, "Hard Times" (1 text)
Hubbard, #186, "Hard Times" (3 texts)
Lomax-ABFS, pp. 332-334, "Hard Times" (1 text)
Fahey-Eureka, pp. 14-16, "The Rigs of the Times" (1 text, 1 tune)
Fowke/Mills/Blume, pp. 206-208, "Hard, Hard Times" (1 text, 1 tune -- a Canadian adaptation created by William James Emberly in 1936 to describe conditions in the Great Depression)
Peacock, pp. 57-59, "Hard Times" (1 text, 2 tunes)
Fowke/MacMillan 17, "Hard, Hard Times" (1 text, 1 tune)
JHCox 183, "Hard Times" (1 text, the first six verses being "Courting the Widow's Daughter" and the last seven being a reduced version, minus the chorus, of "The Rigs of the Times")
Owens-2ed, pp. 113-114, "Hard Times" (1 text, 1 tune)
Blondahl, pp. 13-14, "Hard, Hard Times" (1 text, 1 tune)
Doyle3, pp. 28-29, "Hard, Hard Times" (1 text, 1 tune)
Doyle4, pp. 46-47, "Hard, Hard Times" (1 text, 1 tune)
Doyle5, pp. 24-25, "Hard, Hard Times" (1 text, 1 tune)
DT, RIGSTIME*
Roud #876
RECORDINGS:
Omar Blondahl, "Hard, Hard Times" (on NFOBlondahl01,NFOBlondahl02)
Ken Peacock, "Hard Times" (on NFKPeacock)
Ned Rice, "Hard Times" (on PeacockCDROM)
J. W. "Charger" Salmons & friends: "The Rigs of the Time" (on Lomax41, LomaxCD1741)
Pete Steele, "The Song of Hard Times" (on PSteele01)
CROSS-REFERENCES:
cf. "Don't Come to Michigan" (lyrics)
cf. "Old David Ward" (lyrics)
cf. "How Can A Poor Man Stand Such Times and Live?" (subject)
cf. "The Steam Doctor" (lyrics)
cf. "Fine Times in Camp Number Three" (lyrics)
cf. "Here's First to Those Farmers" (theme)
cf. "The Mare and the Foal" (theme)
NOTES: Most scholars (e.g. Belden, Cox, Kennedy) assume that "The Rigs of the Times" (with chorus "Singing, Honesty's all out of fashion, These are the rigs of the times, times, me boys, These are the rigs of the times") is the same as "Hard Times" (with a short chorus such as "these times, these (hard/queer) times").
Personally, I'm not convinced, as the two seem to fall into very distinct groups. But because the equation is so common, I've followed it in the index. - RBW
Blondahl: "This ... was sent in by Paul Emberly, who informs that the lines were written by his late father." - BS
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Here's the entry from folktrax.org:RIGS OF THE TIME(S), THE - "Ye men of high and low degree" "Tis of an old butcher I must bring him in" - Ch: "Honesty's all out of fashion - these are the rigs of the time" - ROUD#876 - BS in Madden Coll Univ Lib Cambridge "Riggs of the Times" "Ye men of high and low degree come listen to my song" - BSs inbl BG 1.1#6 (Research Publ Index) - Carnell: Ballads in C.H.Firth Coll in Sheffield Univ Lib #C84 - KENNEDY AS 1829 "Adulterations" to tune of "Denis Bulgruddery" (see WORDFILE) - JFSS 35 p277 coll Moeran "The Publican" m/o - WILLIAMS FSUT 1923 p104 6v "Here's first to these farmers" - PALMER Painful Plough 1972 - KENNEDY FSBI 1975 p523 "Charger" Salmons, Stalham, Norfolk 1947 - PALMER EBECS 1979 pp53-54 Moeran: from Salmons - Cf - ALTERATION OF THE TIMES - DODGIN SONG - STATE OF GREAT BRITAIN - tune of LITTLE DUN MARE (Mary Ann Hayes) --- American & Canadian counterparts go under title: "Hard Times" - LOMAX Cowboy 1910/38 p176/ ABFS 1934 p138/ FSNA 1960 p438 from 1934 - BELDEN Mo 1940 p433 - BROWN 1952-62 p419 - PEACOCK NFL 1965 p57 2var -- "Charger" John W Salmons, rec "Windmill" Sutton, Norfolk 27/10/47: RPL 13864/ COLUMBIA SL-206 1952 (Assigned to FOLKTRAX by Mr Salmons 1951)/ FTX-021 (vs 3 & 5 omitted)/ FTX-517 - Harry COX rec by Sheila Park 1967: TOPIC TSCD-512 (D) 2000 Disc 2 #4 - Shirley COLLINS (& ch): TOPIC 12-T-170 1967 - Vic HARRUP rec Ship Inn, Blaxhall, Suffolk: TRANSATLANTIC XTRS-1141 1974
And, for the record, here are the lyrics we have in the Digital Tradition, which come from Kennedy:
RIGS OF THE TIME
O, 'tis of an old butcher, I must bring him in.
He charge two shillings a pound, and thinks it no sin.
Slaps his thumb on the scale-weights and makes them go down,
He swears it's good weight yet it wants half a pound. Singing..
chorus: Honesty's all out of fashion
These are the rigs of the time,
Time, my boys
These are the rigs of the time.
Now the next is a baker, I must bring him in.
He charge fourpence a loaf and thinks it no sin.
When he do bring it in, is not bigger than your fist,
And the top of the loaf is popped off with the ye'st, Singing..
No wonder the butter be a shilling a pound
See the little farmer's daughters, how they ride up and down.
If you ask them the reason, they'll say: "Bone', alas,
There's a French war and the cows have no grass, Singing..
O the next is a publican, I must bring him in.
He charge fourpence a quart, he thinks it no sin.
When he do bring it in, the measure is short
The top of the pot is popped off with the froth, Singing..
Here's next to the tailor who skimps with our clothes,
And next the shoemaker who pinches our toes.
We've nought in our bellies, our bodies are bare
No wonder we've reason to curse and to swear, Singing..
Now the very best plan that I can find
Is to pop them all off in a high gale of wynd
And when they get up, the cloud it will bu'st
And the biggest old rascal come tumbling down first, singing..
From Kennedy, Folksongs of Britain and Ireland.
Recorded by Cooney, The Cheese Stands Alone, Folk-Legacy.
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