Firstly let me apologise to Jed. I realise now that he is talking about a totally different concept and one where a lot of money seems to be involved. In those circumstances, if the organsisers aren't set up properly, they are going to go down the pan. So yes I misunderstood as Barry said.

The majority of clubs, whether, singaround, session, concert style as I understand it in the UK, build up a reserve over time to allow them to buy in the odd guest (as Guest Jon indicated). Profit making is not necsssarily the object of the club. Obviously they need to break even over time otheerwise they would fold, but that doesn't mean that they break even or make a profit on the guest night. Basically I suppose the night is subsidised, and if you do make a profit thats nice. Most of theses clubs are run by folkies or the audience is folkie based. A totally different concept to the US.

I think Jeri hit it on the nail with his comments in relation to UK and US
>>There aren't 'clubs' here, the same way there are in the UK. They're venues that hire enterainers, and sometimes those are folk musicians. If they always hire folk musicians, it's likely they'll be called a 'folk club'. <<
In this concept it is a business and as a performer, you would expect the business to make sure that they promote the performers and try and maximise profits not only for the venue, but for the performer.

So once again apologies Jed - totally different ball game.

Les