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Thread #93960   Message #1815873
Posted By: sian, west wales
22-Aug-06 - 05:00 AM
Thread Name: English music compared to Celtic music
Subject: RE: English music compared to Celtic music
Azizi, in a way your snippets have pointed out one of the main problems with the current usage of Celtic or Gaelic. The corporate marketing men have invaded them, and MADE them mean primarily 'Irish' with a nod in the direction of Scottish. But "Celtic" should refer to both the Goidelic and Brythonic branches. If people would use the term correctly, there would be no problem. But we've said this all before.

Blind will, a teacher once told me MANY years ago (I was born & raised in Port Colborne, Niagara Penninsula) that there's no such thing as a stupid question. You wanted some info, so you ask. Well done, you. So now you know a lot more than you did before, and you'll probably learn from it, and start asking how English music compares to Irish or Scottish music, which is what you seem to actually want to know. You might then get some thread drift information on how it relates to Welsh, for example.

And I will BET that you will then have people disagree with your use of 'English'! Cornwall was/is a Celtic nation; Cumbric was spoken in Cumbria which would have been part of the 'pre-urban society of Celtic Great Britain' (Wikipedia), and still feels more Celtic than Anglo to me. I nearly got stuck into this debate myself when Tootler, way up above, said "Elswhere in England place names are Anglo Saxon in origin. There are in fact very few place names in England which are Celtic in origin". Not if you go to Cornwall. Or Cumbria. Still, I thought that would drift the thread beyond acceptable boundaries.

I know that Karen Tweed has said that she recognizes the difference between Irish/Scottish fiddle tunes and Welsh tunes when she plays them and, on more than one occasion, I've been correct in recognizing a tune as being for Welsh song ... so there is a distinguishable difference, and often a big one, within the Celtic (in it's correct sense) repertoire.

I'm sure you'll take this all on board.

sian