Man. I just went back and read these posts. Are you folks really this naive? The land-grabbing interests of the "conservation" movement are working hand-in-glove with the fascistic corporate govts taking over the world. They tell you a blue-bellied tick needs to be saved in some swamp and 1,000 people are forced to "donate" their land to the govt. Land-grabbing is land-grabbing. Irwin tried his crap in Texas by calling rattlesnakes endangered on one of his bushit programs, and a friend of mine sent him a snake-head belt buckle as a comment. Irwin was a whore to big-money interests. Maybe he was a greenie at some point, but then he crossed over. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he said the pestilential rattlesnakes in my state had to be rescued from the evil humans. Irwin got what he deserved. Outsmarted by a fish, too. How can you put any credence in something told to you by a man who was outsmarted by a fish? There is no difference between Irwin helping the Sierra Club steal swampland in Florida and Dick Cheney helping Halliburton steal real estate in New Orleans.