Dartford Warbler - bet when you innocently started this thread you thought it was just a "What's On?" thing. I wonder if you had known then what you know now . Would you have bothered? Thanks for Barbara's injection of common sense. Anyone wanting to see a guest who is Belfast born, Liverpool raised, and resident in Canada, and doesn't want to go to Dartford is welcome to come to Orpington Liberal Club on the previous Friday.