The thread is surely getting long, but since my comments came up I think I need to respond:

Dee: Though you did not mention my comments I think you are being overly sensitive to a "non-situation". Most everybody has been respectful and questioning. Which, as I recall, is expected of us ---even to question Jaweh---God--if you will.

Rshmiel---great commentary. I laughed out loud at the great pun about "...passed over".   I always appreciate a good play on words.

Now to OJFP:   Are you suggesting anti-semitism on my part?   Hope not. I belong to the questioning and unconviced part of the tribe.   As I question all organized religion.

                Not to take this discussion too far off track---that would require another thread---people have beliefs and they should be respected.   That people have such belief and that it helps them through their "biological" life is a great comfort, I am sure.   Is it based on fact, logic, reality? That is a question for another thread and one that I am sure I am not capable of answering.

                As to Einstein--he was mentioned. He has always amazed me. Brilliant and honestly, it seems, subverted his genius to logic to some almighty being.

Bill Hahn