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Thread #94831   Message #1838903
Posted By: Joe Offer
20-Sep-06 - 04:23 AM
Thread Name: BS: Pope Benedict XVI Islam controversy
Subject: RE: BS: Pope Benedict XVI Islam controversy
When I posted above, I hadn't found the remark in full context - all I'd seen is what other people said about it. Freightdawg is correct in suggesting I should have done my homework a bit more thoroughly. The entire text of the lecture is here (click) at the Vatican Website. It seems clear from the text of the lecture that he had no intent whatsoever to slander Islam. In fact, it seems to me that the Pope was making a good attempt to explore and explain the difference between Islamic thinking and the Greek thinking that has dominated Christianity since its inception. Greek thinking sees God as bound by reason. To Muslims, God is "absolutely transcendent, [whose] will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality." The Pope seems to indicate that it may be time to move away from the pigeonholes of Hellenistic thought and explore the Christian faith from different perspectives. In the end, though, Benedict concludes that it would be foolhardy to completely divorce the Christian faith from Greek thinking, since the New Testament itself was written in Greek. However, he speaks of a "genuine dialogue of cultures and religions so urgently needed today." All in all, it was a balanced, thorough exploration of the philosophical underpinnings of religion. I'm sure there are valid reasons to disagree with his conclusions, but I certainly don't see any intent to slander Islam in this lecture.


I suppose it may be a hopeless endeavor for an intellectual Pope to attempt to speak intelligently in a world of sound bites and propaganda. The previous Pope was very good at sound bites and photo opportunities, and that made him very popular - but he didn't really have much to say that was satisfying to the intelligence. John Paul wrote extensively, but his writing wasn't particularly scholarly. He was wordy and stilted, and tended to spend a fair amount of time quoting his own previous statements. But he WAS good at sound bites.

I think it was proper for the pope to express regret at the response to his statement - but I don't believe he has any reason to apologize for what he said in the lecture.


Here's an Associate Press story about the murder of a nun in Somalia. The murder may or may not be associated with reaction to the pope's statement.