Bobert:

Ya gotta have a brain to be brain washed.

And I don't have a single brown shirt regardless of your tired liberal clinches and rhetoric.

Libs always have to assign everybody to one of their stereotypes, there is no such thing as a free thinker.

That is why they can't think freely themselves.

Oops, I just stereotyped somebody.

Well I agree with Bush on somethings and not on others just like my wife, brothers etc. It is based on what I believe and not an ideology.

I even agreed with Clinton on some things. I might even agree with you on some things but it looks like your mind is closed to any evidence that might make you change your mind. Is that called closed mindedness?

Now you take these wetb.. err, illegal aliens. They are here illegally. You rant and rave when you think Bush broke the law but you want to bend the law for people that came here illegally. I don't blame them for coming. I am for them coming legally. I think they do the dirty jobs that Americans are to "good" to do and pay taxes, SS etc if they were paid a decent wage legally and more or less pay their way. Right now they are a drain on the state and local communities. A hidden tax that subsidizes the lower prices.

But the present system is keeping them in a sort of slave state where they get treated like shit, under paid and they have no rights, pay no taxes and can't complain because they are illegal. That is because the Republicans want them here for cheap labor. It is also due to Democrats that want them here so they will vote Democratic someday. I think you will agree that it is crystal clear.

Now the big problem with amnesty is that it gives them the idea that laws are not to be followed in the US. That they are a minority can get more benefits than Americans. They will not mix into the great American melting pot that made this country great. They will stay apart and be divided, not united with mainstream America. There will be gangs against other ethnic groups Ala West side story.

It will be difficult in the short run to make these people tow the line and re inter legally. Quotas will need to be increased, processes speeded up and more INS personnel hired. I don't call that Gestapo tactics. I call that following the law.

To give them amnesty will be easy in the short run but what are the long term consequences?

We have already gone through the amnesty thing and it did not cure the problem. This amnesty will not cure the problem either. And we are going to spend 8 billion an a fence? Why not spend some bucks policing the businesses that hire them?

I say crack down on businesses that hire illegal aliens. Make them follow the law. You are always bitching about the "Crooks" and they are crooks. If one lettuce grower hires illegals, the others have to do it to compete. If none of them can hire illegals they will all be in the same boat. That is fair. All businesses held to the same law.

Also if the minimum wage was set at $10 it would be an incentive for them to enter legally to get that $10. It's probably 2 or 3 times what they are making now. It will be trickle up economics at work when the local economies improve.

Now tell me what mold I was cast in? Tell me what organization I am loyal to? Tell me what doctrine I follow?