Little Hawk: Not Marx Brothers --the makers of those toys. Just The Marx Co. (Louis Marx if I recollect).   The Marx brothers brought us joy and and Louis brought children much joy as well---from electric trains (I had one) to many other toys.   

             You have heard of WWJD--my newly coined slogan---which fits in here so well--when could that happen---WWGS. What Would Groucho Say.   

             In your last posting I think you are missing a poing. Bush is what he is, and we all seem to agree. But your analogy to his comments of good v evil and relating it to the Germans and so on is flawed. For one thing, we have not won a war---a war that we are mistakenly involved in.   And it gets worse. You don't export democracy to people of a different culture that don't want it. That is a whole different discussion.

             Unless I misread you your statement about the Japanese and the Germans and their "spinning" was while the war was on--and we also did that. Once it ended things changed a bit and the Allied hypocrisy showed its head (after the Nurenmburg trials) because of the USSR/US (UK) conflict. See above post re: Von Braun and scientists.

             Frankly, having lived through the era and having to leave my homeland I can only refer you to my first posting in regard to the "propoganda" of the Allied nations. Let's face it---we had to win or you would not be able to write the things you have written. In fact you might have been served up as bacon somewhere---I mean that literally.

             As a sidelight on this. Recently an 86 yr old woman living in Queens, NYC was deported for lying on her visa application after the war---she was a bride of a U S soldier (who never knew her background). She was a guard at Treblinka. I guess Von Braun never lied--he just said "sure---I can build you a rocket."   Mengele, Eichman, and others---the Israelis got them.   We deport 86 yr old women because we won't have ex Nazis here---unless they can build a rocket.

Bill Hahn