And on a slightly different instrument, Davit Kipiani of the Georgian folk group "Rustavi" - he plays a salamuri, which is a kind of nine-hole recorder. (I'd like to try one, but I've never seen one, not even in north-east Turkey where Georgian traders often come over the border).

One instrument I really regret not buying was a ten-hole plastic descant recorder I saw in a music shop in Istanbul in 1981 (some of the holes were doubled). I presume it was designed for playing the Turkish makams, and it must have been a modern invention, there's nothing like it known in Turkish music history. Despite many visits to Turkey and trawling music shops all over the country, I've never seen one since.

I suppose I could make instruments like that by plugging the existing holes of a cheap plastic descant with epoxy and boring a completely new set at 90 degrees to the old ones. Anybody tried anything along those lines?