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Thread #95164   Message #1850705
Posted By: GUEST,Richie
04-Oct-06 - 11:11 PM
Thread Name: Origin: This Morn, This Eve, Right Now
Subject: RE: Origin: This Morn, This Eve, Right Now
Here's some basic info from the folk index/ballad index:

This Morning, This Evening (So Soon/Right Now) [Me II-Z 8c]
Rt - Red Hot Breakdown; Wagon; Policeman
Rm - How Many Biscuits Can You Eat
1. Lomax, John A. & Alan Lomax / American Ballads and Folk Songs, MacMillan, Bk (1934), p.100 [1920s] (Old Bill)
2. Leisy, James F. (ed.) / Hootenanny Tonight!, Gold Medal Books, sof (1964), p147 (Tell Old Bill)
3. Sandburg, Helga (ed.) / Sweet Music, Dial, Bk (1963), p 45 (Tell Old Bill)
4. Barnhart, Nancy. Sandburg, Carl / American Songbag, Harcourt Brace Jovan..., Sof (1955/1928), p 18 (Dis Mornin' Dis Evenin' So Soon)
5. Carawan, Guy. This Little Light of Mine, Folkways FG 3552, LP (1959), trk# A.04 (Tell Old Bill)
6. Carawan, Guy. Asch, Moses (ed.) / 124 Folk Songs as Sung and Recorded on Folkways Reco, Robbins Music, Fol (1965), p105 (Tell Old Bill)
7. Carolina Tar Heels. Carolina Tar Heels, Folk Legacy FSA-024, LP (1965), trk# 8 [1962/08/11]
8. Gibson, Bob. Everybody Sing, Vol 3., Riverside RLP-1420, LP (196?), trk# B.06a (Ol' Bill)
9. Gibson, Bob. Sing Out! Reprints, Sing Out, Sof (196?), 5, p19 (Old Bill)
10. Gibson, Bob. I Come for to Sing, Riverside RLP 12-806, LP (1957), trk# A.06 (Ol' Bill)
11. Hinton, Sam. Singing Across the Land, Decca DL 8108, LP (1955), trk# B.02c (Tell Old Bill)
12. Marshall, Charley. Charley Marshall Sings Folk, Ikon IER 109, LP (1956?), trk# A.01 (Old Bill)
13. Mitchell Trio. Reflecting, Mercury MG 20891, LP (1964), trk# B.01 (Tell Old Bill)
14. Sayre, George; and Charlie Stivers. Songs of the Drinking Gourd, Concept CFM 1001, LP (1960), trk# A.05 (Old Bill)
15. Sessions, Bob. Room at the Top, JHU, LP (197?), trk# B.03 (Tell Old Bill)
16. Silverman, Jerry. Silverman, Jerry (ed.) / Folksingers Guitar Guide, Advanced, Oak, Sof (1964), p44 (Tell Old Bill)
17. Skillet Lickers. Gid Tanner and the Skillet Lickers, Rounder 1005, LP (1973), trk# 3 [1927/04/11] (Setting in the Chimney Jamb)
18. Smith, William B.. Shay, Frank (ed.) / My Pious Friends and Drunken Companions and More ..., Dover, Sof (1961/1927), p200 (Dis Mornin' Dis Evenin' So Soon)
19. Van Ronk, Dave. Dave Van Ronk Sings, Vol. 2, Folkways FA 2383, LP (1961), trk# A.04 (Tell Old Bill)
20. Watson, Doc. Watson Family Tradition, Rounder 0129, LP (1977), trk# A.06 (Biscuits)

How Many Biscuits Can You Eat [Me II-Z 8c] - Ralston/Miller
Rt - Crawdad (Song)
Rm - This Morning, This Evening (So Soon/Right Now)
21. Coon Creek Girls. Early Radio Favorites, Old Homestead OHS 142, LP (1982), trk# 3
22. Coon Creek Girls. Old Time Herald, Old Time Herald, Ser, 3/6, p44(1992) [1940s]
23. Foster, Gwen (Gwin/Gwyn/Guinn). Early Rural String Bands, RCA (Victor) LPV-552, LP (1968), trk# 14 [1939/02/05]
24. Freight Hoppers. Where'd You Come From, Where'd You Go?, Rounder 0403, CD (1996), trk# 14
25. Howard, Clint. Looking off Down the Road, Old Homestead OHS-80060, LP (1983), trk# 5
26. Jones, Grandpa. 24 Great Country Songs, King 967, LP (1975), trk# A.06
27. Mother Logo. Branching Out, Legend SG 5005, LP (1986), trk# A.02
28. Pleasant Family. Old Time String Band, Pleasant --, CD (2005), trk# 17 (Bisquit Song)
29. Stringbean (David Ackerman). Stringbean and His Banjo. A Salute to Uncle Dave Macon, Starday SLP 215, LP (1963), trk# 7
30. Wiseman, Mac. 20 Old-Time Country Favorites, Rural Rhythm RHY-258, CD (1997/1966), trk# 7

Red Hot Breakdown [Me II-Z 8c]
Rt - This Morning, This Evening (So Soon/Right Now)
31. Corn Dodgers. Nobody's Business If I Do, Rooster 106, LP (1980), trk# B.01
32. Johnson, Earl; and his Clodhoppers. Red Hot Breakdown, County 543, LP (1976), trk# A.06 [1927/10/07]
33. Weems, Ace; and his Fat Meat Boys. It's All Gone Now, Carryon 002, LP (199?), trk# B.06

The Wagon - Harney, Ben
Rt - This Morning, This Evening (So Soon/Right Now)
Rm - Crawdad (Song)
34. Harney, Ben. Folk Songs of America. The Robert Winslow Gordon Collection...., Library of Congress AFS L68, LP (1978), trk# 13 [1925/09/09ca]

Rt - This Morning, This Evening (So Soon/Right Now)
35. Cockerham, Jarrell and Jenkins. Down to the Cider Mill, County 713, LP (1968), trk# 11
36. Foghorn Stringband. Foghorn Stringband, Foghorn, CD (2003), trk# 4
37. Hall, Kenny; and the Sweets Mill String Band. Kenny Hall and the Sweets Mill String Band, Bay TPH-727, LP (1973), trk# B.06
38. High on the Hog. Last Chance, High Hog, CD (2003), trk# 9
39. Jarrell, Tommy; and Kyle Creed. June Apple, Mountain 302, LP (1972), trk# 5
40. Martin, Reed. Old Time Banjo in America, Kicking Mule KM 204, LP (1978), trk# 9 [1975ca]
Spare Change Boys. Berkeley Farms, Folkways FA 2436, LP (1972), trk# B.04

How Many Biscuits Can You Eat?
DESCRIPTION: "How many biscuits can you eat, this mornin', this mornin'? (x2) Forty-nine, and a ham of meat, this mornin'." Discussion of food, work, etc., with many floating verses ("Ain't no use me workin' so hard," "If you get there before I do").
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1928 (recording, Humphrey Bate)
KEYWORDS: food nonballad work
Roud #7876
Dr. Humphrey Bate & his Possum Hunters, "How Many Biscuits Can You Eat?" (Brunswick 232, 1928)
Gwen Foster, "How Many Biscuits Can I Eat" (Bluebird B-8082/Montgomery Ward M-7859 [as "How Many Biscuits Can You Eat"], 1939)
Grandpa Jones, "How Many Biscuits Can You Eat?" (King 740, 1948)
Pickard Family, "How Many Biscuits Can You Eat" (Coast 253, n.d.)
cf. "Crawdad" (tune)
Crawdad (File: R443)
Notes: This is pretty definitely built about "Crawdad," or one of its relatives, and manages to be even sillier than that silly song. But it's been recorded enough that I finally decided it went in the Index. - RBW

Tell Old Bill
DESCRIPTION: "Tell old Bill, when he leaves home this morning, Tell old Bill, when he leaves home this evening, Tell old Bill... To let them downtown coons alone...." (An hour after) Bill left he is dead/murdered and being brought home in a "hurry-up wagon"
AUTHOR: unknown
EARLIEST DATE: 1927 (Sandburg)
KEYWORDS: death whore murder
REFERENCES (4 citations):
Sandburg, pp. 18-19, "Dis Mornin', Dis Evenin', So Soon" (1 text, 1 tune)
Lomax-ABFS, pp. 100-102, "Old Bill" (2 texts, 1 tune)
Silber-FSWB, p. 78, "Tell Old Bill" (1 text)
Roud #7876
cf. "Ain't No Use Workin' So Hard" (structure, refrain)