Penis measurement, LH. It was more about Clinton and Mick, and there were some decent posts while I was in the process of typing the long reply, but the religion vs. non-religion (not the subject but the well-worn rut this thread was doomed to fall into) is normally a fight between people trying to prove they're more righteous than their opponent. If the world ever works, it'll be because discussions like this will be more like:

"I believe X"
"Really? I believe Y."
"OK"
"Yeah, cool. Not that different, eh?"

Somewhere, people try to understand each other and aren't competing all the time. Probably on another planet. People come to Mudcat (BS side) to fight. I shouldn't have gotten involved in this version of the religion wars, though. Guess it just bothered me to learn what MMario though of me. I'm gone now.