's long as were on this, two of my favorite sayings are in regard to punishing someone. A friend for mine from Oklahoma used to say "What they need is a sound thrashing about the head and ears." That is such a weird statement that I won't even try to break it down, but I knew exactly what he meant. When I got in trouble as a kid, my Father would say to me "If your Mother catches you, she's going to put the wood on you." I can't imagine my Mother ever "putting the wood" on me, but I got the message, anyway. That's what communication is all about, idn't it?

Jerry