I think Shambles made some good points in his last post and the 2000 note.

Can I ask one question Shambles? (no, that was not the one question!) After repeatedly making your point well known, and realizing that you are powerless to change the minds of the "hosts" of this party - what drives you to keep making your point?    The silence of the host, and the repeated examples that continue to occur serve to make your point. Why bother to continue making the same suggestion when it appears that it is falling on deaf ears, and you end up becoming the victim of scorn because of your persistence?

Again, I am not knocking your opinion nor do am I attacking you - I do see your points more clearly, but it is obvious that the powers that be aren't going to change.   Could you expain to our forum why you continue?