The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #93659   Message #1857588
Posted By: Wolfgang
13-Oct-06 - 04:57 AM
Thread Name: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
Subject: RE: BS: Closed threads & deleted posts.
C'mon, Ron,

when I make the same suggestion for the second time I'm already adpting Shambles? You must have read all that nonsense. But I'm repeating it once more:

my first request:
may I ask you here to include the respective date in the title. That would make these threads more user friendly.

Shambles' response:
Then rather that post here only to judge - please by all means place there anything that you judge would make those threads (and any other threads) more interesting and informative. I place only the little information I do to encourage others to post their contributions. I also learn a lot form this and also from surfing to find the information.

That used to be the postive way things used to work on our forum - before posters were encouraged by the negative example given ONLY to pass judgements on the worth of a thread or post or of the worth of the poster and to call them names. And encouraged to simply swoon with horror at the thought of seing the titles of more than one thread at a time.

If it is a thread with little information - why not encourage other posters to provide it?

If a thread is questionably music related - then add it and attempt to keep it there - rather only judge it and than ask that it be relegated to the BS.

These birthday threads were an idea to try and return some of the old spirit of shared fun and joint discovery that makes our forum different to those sites obbsessed only with order.   

To encourage the act of posting - not to find ways that CAN only inhibit the posting of reasonable discussion.


Was that a normal response to a simple question? Something like "good idea" or "No, I'm not going to do that"? Nearly all of the "response" was completely unrelated to my question and made no sense in that context. As for the place there anything that you judge would make those threads (and any other threads) more interesting and informative that did miss my point. Whatever I add will not be in the title and therefore not show in the forum search which I prefer as long as the super search is not updated. I may want to look in a year or two who had birthday on a certain day and was mentioned already in MC. With the super search not updated this will be a time consuming and tedious task.

When I asked him in this thread once more he reacted not like a more than 50 years old adult. Had he said anything clearly here and not acted like a child I would never have asked the same request in a music thread. I do not think that repeating the same question again and again and again after a clear response is a valid way of arguing. But if I have not read a serious response I may ask again. That's what I did.

And I did include his first response so he could see why I was asking again. I did hope that outside of this Shamblecentric thread he would act a bit more reasonable than he does in here. I care about MC as a music resource and therefore I try to make it more useful whenever possible. I still think my suggestion to include the birth date in the title is a good one. Shambles was reading in(to) that request another attack upon his holy right to post in whatever way he likes.

Since more than two years he does not react to simple suggestions or corrections of fact or questions how he has meant a post in any remotely reasonable way.

He did choose in the music thread not to give me a clear response but to mention his crusade against the moderators:
The problem - as you well know is that - with the longer names - ordinary posters like me - do not always have enough characters available to them to place the birthdate in the title.
That had again no meaningful relation to my request so I did ask on for the simple reason that I did not understand the reasoning behind the words. (Same as you do when you ask him something)


Finally then, for the first time Shambles gave a reason why he is not willing (he says "able") to follow my suggestion:

I have already explained to you that with the number of characters available to ordinary posters - it is not always possible to include the birthdate in the title. When that problem is addressed and solved - I will then be able to do what you keep on requesting me to do.

My God, if he had written something like that as the first response he could have saved a lot of typing and would not have ruined a music thread he had started.

I clear English he says:
I won't include dates in birthday threads even if it is possible as long as the moderators can use more characters in titles than I can.

The reasoning behind this argumentation makes not much sense to me and once more reminds me rather of a stubborn boy than of a grown up person but it finally a clear statement.

There is no need now any longer to repeat my suggestion more often than perhaps once a year.

Wolfgang