In a previous thread on bugle calls it was "discovered" that there are immense differences in the calls used by various countries and even by different services (and at different times) within a single country.
It's easy for people to talk about a call in great detail before discovering that they're discussing two (or more) quite different "tunes" and lyrics from various odd ends of the world and from different times.
Be cautious ... about assuming ... that you know what someone else thinks you believe you're talking about here.