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Thread #95723   Message #1864703
Posted By: Lox
20-Oct-06 - 07:54 PM
Thread Name: football songs are they folk or traditional songs
Subject: RE: football songs are they folk or traditional songs
I'm Probably pointing out the obvious here, but I feel that it might be useful to put a historical perspective on things. (in brief)

Traditional folk music and culture were hit hardest by the industrial revolution.

When people were moved off the land and into cities, they were uprooted from their traditions, which became pretty much irrelevant to them as they adapted to survive in completely differnt circumstances.

Peoples sense of identity was completely undermined, and part of redefining themselves included asserting a new definition of who they were. There weren't many opportunities to do this, but when team games like football came along, and rivalries and competition between different industrial centres developed, they became essential aspects of urban identity and culture.

Sadly, I think that for most urban folk, their chosen musical tradition is less to do with their football roots and has more to do with popular culture. If you put on "Angels" by Robbie Williams at a football match, the crowd will sing along.

A better example would probably be "we are the champions".

Unfortunately I don't think Football culture was around long enough before the advent of "pop" music to have begun to develop a sophisticated "soundtrack" of its own.

And so I (probably) reopen an old mudcat can of worms regarding urban folk vs traditional folk.

The folk revival remembers roots which otherwise might be forgotten. And as I am always banging on about, roots are very important.

Too tired to construct proper sentence.

Must go to bed.