I'm trying to stay away from this circular thread, as all it does is rehash all the same old arguments, comes to no conclusions and never will, and most of the people concerned don't take any notice of what the other contributors say.
Roger won't change anything about how the Mudcat is run, and may in fact be the single largest factor in any decision to go to a members only posting scenario. Especially as he seems to attract more Guests than any other contributor, and I know for a fact that many of those Guests are Mudcat members.
Anyway, having posted when I know I shouldn't bother as it is a waste of cyber space, I will tell you why I came back to this thread.
I have discovered a new word which perfectly describes this thread, along with it's main subject and contributor, the word is...........

BOREGASMIC !


Giok