There you go again, twisting my words. I don't know why you call it "judging your worth" when someone offers criticism or suggestions. That is a slimy way to garner sympathy and you are certainly not a martyr.

Ron - The start and finsihing point is that you consider we both have the right to express our views for purposes of discussion.

Following on from that all that is required is for us to stick to the issue. Unlike yours - most of my suggestions and questions are largely limited to just that.

If you judge what I have posted to you to be an attack - then how would you judge some of the regular posts from the likes of Mick and Co? Which example - if I have to remind you - you were more than happy to follow - until you say you came to realise that my points were valid.

If my points are valid - I consider that any of my (many) personal short-commings are secondary to this discussion - as are yours.