"Posters are not the sheep you refer to but perhaps you will agree that they will understandably follow the example of posting behavious seen to set by our 'moderators'?"

Some of us "independantly minded" regulars certainly would NOT agree with any such sweeping generalization!!!!! I make up my own mind!

Roger- you pride yourself on not stooping to name-calling and personal insults, as you note has happened to you at times, but that quoted sentence IS an insult to most of the folks who have tried to discuss this for the last few months or years!

You have taken that "seen to be" phrase into realms where it doesn't naturally venture!...most of the "seen to be" means only that YOU choose to "see" it that way.