And when one applies the principle of reductio ad absurdum, Don, to the concept of taking human embryos and harvesting them for the stem cells, we could almost see breeding a subhuman species for the purpost of harvesting organs. See how silly this is? Or is it?

I reject your premise with regard to unfertilized eggs having the same weight in the discussion as fertilized embryos. The ova are a naturally produced component used by nature to create life. Those not fertilized, naturally are expelled or die. There has been no proactive manipulation. The taking of ova, fertilizing them, then destroying them is a wholly proactive process which raises the questions I raise. This is a distinction I would think you could grasp.

bobad, I was not trying to be defensive, but I admit that it looked that way. What I was trying to establish was that taking the "I'm right, and I can't believe you can't see it" line that Don was taking, and it looked like you were seconding, runs counter to a decent discussion. Some respect for the participants in the discussion is necessary, or it just becomes an "Oh yeah" type of arguement. I am grateful for the link and I will give it a good read before continuing on in this discussion.

Mick