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Thread #95966   Message #1871648
Posted By: GUEST,lightnix
29-Oct-06 - 05:50 PM
Thread Name: BS: Last chance to save UK democracy!!!
Subject: RE: BS: Last chance to save UK democracy!!!
@autolycus: There are Crossbench peers and bishops, who are not bound by party loyalties. Try them.

@Lox: You obviously haven't read / understood the OP properly (or any of the links - sorry I don't know how to make them clickable). You haven't been presented with the whole document, in the hope that you'll suss it for yourself; other links have been posted which contain background reading. Sorry if you can't get it together to copy / paste them into your browser's search tab, but that's OK - let me try to explain it again *sigh*...

Under the Bill's current form, all a Minster will need to do is "consider that" a law is "burdensome", by themselves, with no parliamentary debate. They will effectively be able to change any law they don't like, at will, without any recourse to the democratic process. The least we can hope for, at this late stage, is for a Minister to be required to PROVE that any changes they wish to make to a law actually WILL reduce the "burden" imposed by it, thus requiring their otherwise autocratic decision to be verified by Parliament.

Got that?

As for more time to "explore" the matter... Sorry, but you've got until the close of play on Wednesday.

@George Papavgeris: I'm no constitutional expert, but Yes: that's about the size of it.

@weelittledrummer: No disrespect, but the best way to ensure (not merely expect) good behaviour from government is to get involved in the political process.

If this Bill goes through on Thursday, then on Friday we will effectively be living under a dictatorship; a real one - not just one imagined by some wild-eyed bunch of conspiraloons.

Think about it, just for a minute: people have sacrificed their lives for the level democracy we enjoy in this country and there are other countries where people would disappear and have their lives summarily ended, for even daring to write a letter of protest to an MP and if you can't be bothered to get off your fat, lazy, apathetic, complacent backsides for ten poxy minutes, to make the most minimal of efforts to stop that from happening here, then you deserve everything that happens to you.

Call it "bollocks" if you want, just remember: you were warned.