K, Old Guy...

As you dish out your relentless obfuscations, I am increasingly convinced that you are just putting us on. But now that I've taken the trouble to post, I will say a thing or two about this nonchalance about Iraqi civillian deaths that you're espousing, which is neither 'conservative' nor Christian...

The US went to war with Iraq because the President and almost all of his cabinet declared that we were in danger of an 'immenent threat'... perhaps a nuclear one. National security was invoked, and declarations were made of 'inside information' that could not therefore be disclosed to the public.

So, because the US is a Democratic nation, though this war was declared for what turns out to have been 'no discernible reason'... It is still being carried out in our names, for 'any reason that might turn up' for 'as long as it might seem reasonable'. Many of us here in the US do not wish to lose any of our 'best and brightest' (or our reputation around the world) due to a misunderstanding, and not a few of us are losing sleep over many tens of thousands of innocent civilians who have died... while giving hundreds of thousands no choice but to try to live thier 'ordinary lives' right in the middle of a guerilla war we insisted on creating.

To try to rationalize this 'event' in the middle east as being some kind of deadly norm for the region, or ours for that matter... to compare the morality of the American people to Saddam... to invent new 'reasons' for a war that had none at it's outset... is just plain unconscienable, and IMHO, absolutely incompatible with New Testament teachings.

Seems what you call 'bitching', Old Guy, just might be what our forefathers called 'patriotism'.

Read my lips... No new rationalizations.
ttr