I've lost friends over this. They will not see that the Labour Party that they joined 50 years ago isn't the same party now, and if you try to talk to them, start a mantra about some minor money- shuffling exercise like child benefit. I can't say we would be better off with the Tories- we've GOT the tories. But I can't see anyone to vote for (as distinct from against) should there be an election in the next few years.