I suppose it comes down to people working together in political parties. I accept much of the opposition and outrage descibed above but I want to have some effect.

Their was much opposition from "The left" to Callaghan in the 70's. The Party moved to the left, the SDP was formed and we got 20 years of Thatcher. The Socialist Wokers Party has had a fairly coherent and long standing place on the left. More peole vote BNP, none of their policies have been adopted by anybody, they haven't even managed a couple of councilors anywhere and now they have got into bed with their Arch enemy Galloway!

One vote in millions is one vote. If you want to get things done - like resolving the Iraq war and never starting another - you ahve to negotiate and make agreements with other people - lots and lots of other people and I believe that is called party politics sooner or later.

Most of us in the Labour Party want TB to go and we also want our Party back and that is where the battle matters.