I admire you tenacity T but won't get sucked into a pointless debate on points which are mainly conjecture.

Facts as usual have diminished to the point at which they have no importance and no influence on the outcome.

Perception is what matters now, not only to the Iraqi people, but to the UK/US electorate. And the perception is that we are led by murderous, self serving humans with no regard for the suffering of their brothers and sisters.


Every live report I hear from Iraq, contains an interview from Iraqi citizens both Shia and Sunni, who bear witness that life is much worse and violent death more common than even under the repressive Saddam regime.

My god you must feel so proud of "democracy"!!!......Ake