re: dougr's comment.
". . . they have already declared that it's time to abandon Iraq (as we did in Viet Nam) and leave the country to the Terrorists."

well said don firth. I agree fully.

the line above is the latest republican talking point..
however it is desperate and just not believable after all the other predictions: such as
(Rumsfeld)Saddam has WMDs and we know where they are..
(Wolfowitz) Iraq war will pay for itself (with oil revenues)..
(Cheney) I firmly believe we will be greeted as liberators...
(CHeney) the insurgency is in its death throes..

seems like they dont have much of an ability to predict anything.