A great story...y'know I think sometimes that the worst rage our worst maniacs feel is just an extreme case of soemthing we all boil from in lesser amounts -- a bunch of turth wanting to get out, the pain coming from the failure/inability to communicate when something is desperately needing to be spoken. And I suspect that the understandable polish, the hypocrisy we all agree is "necessary" to make our social lives work...is part of the reason why our species keeps turning up homicidal and stupid.

Neo, I am really struck by the truth you have pointed out...I am never so critical of others' stupidities as when I am sitting in the middle of my own and not wanting to admit it. I think here agian that Rightness for its own sake (as distinguished from a rational "right" analysis or feel of things) is the devil in the works. If we didn't have to be right, how much righter we could get, eh? :>)

Spaw,

I hear you , and thanksfor the remark...I imagine you coul add some brilliant insights tot his paradox-ridden thread should you wish to...

Thanks to all those who have added to this...Iactually feel like we are getting somewhere...dunno where, but it feels that way to me...

Beeswing said if s/he were totally honest s/he would be f***ing free. I'd like an understanding of this if anyone can offer one...