Ok Gizmo. Never mind if you play guitar you can still come. It may take a while on the 51 but they are regular and reliable. Orpington also has a train station, and the club is a short walk down the hill from it .So if you can get to Dartford? I can get there by bus but not back again after about 10pm. I don't drive either, so rely on others with cars. friends always help out when they can, I've found.