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Posted By: Joe Offer
21-Nov-06 - 08:46 PM
Thread Name: DTStudy: Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down!
Subject: DTStudy: Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down!
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The thread on My Jolly Roving Tar is getting a lot of discussion of "Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down!" which, for reasons that are completely understandable, is also called "Jolly Roving Tar." Maybe we should explore "Jack" and see what we can find about it.
There are two versions in the DT:


Ships may come and ships may go
As long as the sea does roll.
Each sailor lad just like his dad,
He loves the flowing bowl.
A trip ashore he does adore
With a girl that's plump and round.
When your money's all gone
It's the same old song,
``Get up Jack! John, sit down!''

Come along, come along, You jolly brave boys,
There's lots of grog in the jar.
We'll plough the briny ocean
With the jolly roving tar.
When Jack gets in, it's then he'll steer
For some old boarding house.
They'll welcome him with run and gin,
They'll feed him on pork scouse.
He'll lend and spend and not offend
Till he lies drunk on the ground

He then will sail aboard some ship
For India or Japan
In Asia there, the ladies fair
All love the sailor men.
He'll go ashore and on a tear
He'll buy some girl a gown.
When Jack gets old and weatherbeat,
Too old to roam about,
In some rum shop, they'll let him stop
Till eight bells calls him out.
He'll raise his eyes up to the skies,
Sayin' ``Boys, we're homeward bound.''

collected by Frank Warner from Lena Bourne Fish
Recorded by Frank Warner, Jeff Warner
filename[ JACKJOHN

Oh, the ships will come and the ships will go,
As long as waves do roll
The sailor lad, likewise his dad,
He loves the flowing bowl:
A lass ashore we do adore,
One that is plump and round, round, round.
When the money is gone, it's the same old song,
Get up, Jack! John, sit down!

Singing, Hey! laddie, ho! laddie,
Swing the capstan 'round,'round,'round
When the money is gone it's the same old song,
Get up, Jack! John, sit down!

[I] go and take a trip in a man-o'-war
To China or Japan,
In Asia, there are ladies fair
Who love the sailorman.
When Jack and Joe palavers, 0,
And buy the girls a gown, gown, gown.
When the money is gone it's the same old song,
Get up, Jack! John, sit down!

When Jack is ashore he beats his way
Towards some boarding-house:
He's welcome in with his rum and gin,
And he's fed with pork and s[c]ouse:
For he'll spend and spend and never offend
But he'll lay drunk on the ground, ground, ground
When my money is gone it's the same old song:
Get up, Jack! John, sit down!

When Jack is old and weatherbeat,
Too old to roustabout,
In some rum-shop they'll let him stop,
At eight bells he's turned out.
Then he cries, he cries up to the skies:
I'll soon be homeward bound, bound, bound."
When my money is gone it's the same old song:
Get up, Jack! John, sit down!

From American Ballads and Folk Songs, Lomax
This song was sung and written down by John Thomas, a Welch sailor
on the Philadelphia, in 1896
@sailor @age @drink
filename[ GETUPJCK

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Here's the Traditional Ballad Index entry on this song:

Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down!

DESCRIPTION: A song of the eternal tasks of the sailor, repeated from generation to generation. The sailors all enjoy their rum, find girls in the towns, get drunk, spend their money, and have to return to sea, as their fathers did before him.
AUTHOR: Words: Edward Harrigan / Music: David Braham
EARLIEST DATE: 1885 ("Old Lavender")
KEYWORDS: sailor work drink
REFERENCES (5 citations):
Warner 71, "The Jolly Roving Tar" (1 text, 1 tune)
Lomax-FSNA 33, "Get Up, Jack" (1 text, 1 tune)
Lomax-ABFS, pp. 493-494, "Get Up, Jack! John, Sit Down!" (1 text)
Shay-SeaSongs, pp. 147-148, "Homeward Bound" (1 text, 1 tune, filed by Roud with "Homeward Bound (I)," but without the chorus of that song and with mention of Jack and John in the final verse; it may be mixed)

Roud #2807
Stanley Baby, "Homeward Bound" (on GreatLakes1)
Outward Bound
Notes: Reportedly written by Edward Harrigan and his father-in-law David Braham for the play "Old Lavender," which is listed as premiering September 1, 1885. (Information supplied by Philip Harrigan Sheedy.) The song has since entered oral tradition, as known versions exhibit significant variations. - DGE, RBW
File: Wa071

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Note: the song in Shay, "Homeward Bound," was posted in this thread (click). The ballad index included the song in the "Get Up Jack" entry because Roud included it, even though Roud may be mistaken.
Anybody have other versions, corrections to the DT lyrics?
I thought Jolly Roving Tar was the name of Jack's ship - am I wrong?