You are quite right about the interesting thread Villan but why should a public invitation to disagree on a public forum be settled in private?

You are not telling people how to run clubs, yet you are "for hastening a total rethink, for advocating the new-style venues; the arts and leisure centres and well-run night clubs where artists actually get paid the going rate with proper contracts and punters pay little more"?

You are not making inflamatory comments yet you correct spelling errors and say "if the cap fits" suggesting that I am somehow being misely?

You say that pensioners are ever so well off and admit to spending the £200 fuel allowance on CDs when so many on a fixed pension cannot manage to live without it?

Sorry countess but I have no argument against such mixed messages. I am going to take Villans advice and leave it at that. I will continue to enjoy running and going to folk clubs while you mix with your young artists in Art Centres and trendy venues. I guess from the fact that you get heating allowance that you are a pensioner yourself? Who am I to begrudge an old lady a few little pleasures in her declining years:-)

Cheers

DtG