Sharps? SHARPS? Don't make me laugh! (Been twice, NEVER again - the most patronising, ignorant audience I've ever encountered)!

Guest, the survival of clubs (as we now know them) is not the issue. They will die out with the current generation. Fact.

We are discussing how the MUSIC might be saved.

Look: Archives will not suffice. Yes, maybe someone will dug up some songs and tunes some time in the future - but by then it will be too late. Like latin - of academic value only.

This music is worth saving because it was well-written, and/or it has been rescued and re-envigorated by talented people, over time. We owe the writers, and we owe the people who kept the flame.

It's GOOD goddamit. It deserves to be treated with respect.

I don't care what excuses people may have for singing or playing badly. Hell I can be rubbish myself - but only in the privacy of my own home.

If an event is advertised, with all-comers welcome, and money's changing hands at the door, then some standards MUST apply.