I should have emphasized that the CFR is like the poster child organization of the denial/debunkers. Sift back through the mudcat posts and you'll find people denying it exists until pretty recently. Yet there's Cheney chuckling about how he lied to his constituents while he was head of the CFR. The below is a pretty good summation of the CFR:

"The CFR is the promotional arm of the Ruling Elite in the United States of America. Most influential politicians, academics and media personalities are members, and it uses its influence to infiltrate the New World Order into American life. Its' "experts" write scholarly pieces to be used in decision making, the academics expound on the wisdom of a united world, and the media members disseminate the message.

To understand how the most influential people in America came to be members of an organization working purposefully for the overthrow of the Constitution and American sovereignty, we have to go back at least to the early 1900's, though the story begins much earlier (depending on your viewpoint and beliefs).

That a ruling power elite does indeed control the U.S. government behind the scenes has been attested to by many Americans in a position to know. Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the Supreme Court (1939-1962), said: "The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." In a letter to an associate dated November 21, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt wrote, "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson." February 23, 1954, Senator William Jenner warned in a speech: "Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded."

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/council_on_foriegn_relations.htm

I need to formalize my Categorization process. Latin names would give it some class, I think, so looking at the postings above...let me see...

I think Ebbie would be a good example of Category # 2, "You're terrified of the changing world and you think that if you parrot the govt's lies you'll be able to extend your existence." How does "Ebbie Hystericus" sound for that category?

Don Firth would be a good example of Category # 3 I suspect, but I can't use "Firth" in the name because that could be misread as "First." So I need to incorporate Don or Donald. Hmmm. "You're protecting your investment in the system (either a pension or a job or some imagined "standing" in the community)" Don't know. I'll have to work on that one.

jeffp seems to be an example of Category # 4. "You work for the govt as either an active employee or a passive employee doing some kind of community service assigned to you by the court system." Jeff seems rather bright, but he resorts to name-calling quickly, as if he's been doing this for too long and no longer has the patience for argument. He's just putting in the hours, either as a govt-paid debunker or as a petty criminal working off his debt to society by taking on critics of the govt. His arguments have degenerated into grunt-like, pissy bureaucratic sounds, so "grunticus" something. "Grunt" also denotes a soldier just doing a job, so the designation becomes doubly apt. "Jeff Grunticus?" Not as readily understandible as "Ebbie Hystericus," so maybe it needs some more work. No..."DISgrunticus". He spreads disinformation, in grunts. And Jeff sounds too informal, so Jeffrey Disgrunticus. Nah. This one just isn't coming together.

As far as Category # 1, I hate to call anyone ignorant, so I'll come up with some good generic name for that one.

All I can say for sure at this point is that the type of debunker who is terrified of the changing world and thinks that parroting the government's lies will buy a bit more life is known as the Ebbie Hystericus.