Jeffp - everything you say is correct. You just miss the point. Of course I would have a problem. I know I would be taken away in handcuffs, or on a stretcher as well. Instigation does not justify violence. My point was that Catspaw (or any of the others) probably would not speak the way they have in person. We would probably still disagree, but I truly believe their would be more civility and understanding. The work of a moderator is to prevent these escalations.   They take on the role of a bartender who would either stop serving or kick us out before glasses start flying.

I fully understand the issues that people have with Shambles, and again I am not defending him. To use another tired phrase - two wrongs do not make a right.

Maybe you should take a look in that mirror as well.